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Ayoob: I would say that the individual takes care of his family. The local police department has a crime prevention bureau that teaches exactly what these books teach. A huge number of people in this particular community own and even carry firearms. I would research whether anyone had ever done a poll for that particular county or state on the density of firearms ownership. Normally, how many concealed carry permits are issued is a matter of public record, so I would bring that in, as well.

eJournal: Another popular gun logo item is the ball cap or t-shirt. Some are printed with the same “We don’t dial 9-1-1” type of message that I think you’ve pretty much shown to be a bad idea. What about simply gun logo clothing? Can that cause legal trouble?

Ayoob: For many years, my signature dog–and the best dog I ever owned in my life–was a 210-pound Great Dane. Damn near everybody who looked at it sent a t-shirt or a plaque or a sign that said, “Never mind the dog, beware the owner.” I always gave those away to other dog owners, preferably Chihuahua owners, because I’ve been swimming with the sharks too long to put up something on my premises or wear a t-shirt on my body that declares me to be more dangerous than what the public perceives as a vicious animal.

eJournal: Good point, and that didn’t even specifically mention guns, which seem to ignite a lot more prejudice.

Ayoob: I did another case, this one in MA with Penny Dean as the attorney of record, who did a wonderful job of it. The individual has a Glock t-shirt on when he gets in a road rage thing that is totally triggered by the other man. The other guy follows him into a parking lot and sees our guy picking up his cell phone. Well, the guy who had actually acted out the road rage whips out his cell phone first, calls in the description of our guy, and says, “He pointed a gun at me; I think it was some kind of a Glock.” They search the car and guess what they find? A Glock. All it took was a good guess. It has been some years, so you can check the exact details with Penny, but I clearly remember that it was the Glock t-shirt that caused the other guy to fabricate his story.

eJournal: Let me insert here: in 2009, Penny and her client helped us write up that trial as a two-part article for this online journal. Readers can download PDFs of those journals at
and the lessons contained are well worth the reader’s time.

Ayoob: Penny did a great piece of lawyering there, but my point is that without that Glock t-shirt, it probably would not have happened at all. People only wear things on their clothes or put bumper stickers on their cars that they feel strongly about.